I have D/S Bryce Poser6 and Vue5 pro, and i think i will stick with P6 and V5, why, cause they do it better, the only thing i pop over to daz for are the content, (ie v3, M3, Aiko3,SP3,GIRL, etc...) I think Daz is still pretty cheesed off that CL never bought into Daz'z figures to start with (think they went with Zygote)...lol... How long before CL stops other stand alone rendering software from using it's format to do the same job? And the war continues...

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.