"Here's what DAZ strongly suggested, just get rid of Poser and redo all of my scenes in D/S and then it's no problem. D/S almost has all of the features Poser has and is much easier to use." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! OH MY! Shees... :P Yeah. Right. Well, I would like to remeber them that using drugs is still a crime in the US... ;) "I do think it was a mistake to push Poser users out of the way by making them go the long way around to use Bryce." I bought Bryce 5, and I have the 30$ discount coupon too, but it was just this attitude toward the end-user that made me buy Vue4 then upgrading to 5...