... or maybe i'm just an idiot... 'twas my understanding that zygote were the creators of the original poser figures, up to p4 or p5, before dissolving their partnership with cl and forming their own company, daz3d. or something along those lines.... perhaps it was back when metacreations owned poser... i never use daz studio. i tried it once for about an hour just cause i got an e-mail about it that said it was free. it sat on my hard drive collecting cyber dust and i don't even think i installed it on my new system. shrugs E.D.