"Look they got a Patch out within 24 hours ever see Other Programs do That..?" SILO (and they have only 2 ppl in their dev-team) Could not say do I love it or not, simply, becouse I did not buy it yet, too early in my opinion... About DAZ studio: No rigging custom characters, no full support for all the features in 3Delight, not interested (simply not developed enough at the moment), requested rigging feature 4 months ago, how is that for a service (bones were already there) :P