Yes I am thinking too... All of the Betatesters worked their Asses off as well as everyone Connected With Bryce and Daz Studio,My Hats off to everyone of them that took this on... I have heard all along that the Code in Bryce was all Jumbled and just Barely there...I think Doc has even said that as well as Andy... So for SOMEONE to Say that they(DAZ and TESTERS)Didnt do the Job...Needs an evaluation... Bryce was Dead...It isnt Now... Hey Mistakes were Made in the Release...Crap Happens... Poser5 was a Fiasco in the first week...I hear Vue Infinite has more Crashes then Bryce on its worst day... So Everybody Basically has a different Machine Setup...Hmmm a thousand Users Versus 60 Betatesters with maybe 35 Active full time... Anyone Know what the Math is on Percentages...? I am just a Back woods type of guys,Shucks I cant count Past 24 without my Fingers and Toes...