LornaW: I love yr response and agree with you completely. But you DIDN'T tell us which is your favorite model and why. Pls, play by the rules. thanx. As for what you did say, I think that's what's so enjoyable about the general forums. People just relaxing and getting something off their chest. Maybe even being comforted by like-minded individuals. On another site I started a thread about the fact I didn't have enough money to buy a new laptop. The replies didn't just make me laugh but it came from people who understood how in the large scheme of things that may be small but it's still important to me. According to Render's policy, that discussion could't be had here. And that's too bad because those are the ones I'm looking for... Oaky, that's that. Now, LornaW, tell us which is yr fav fig before you get this thread locked for corn's sake! kmw