yeah, ive plundered my links and jumped off links to other links ... its so frustrating sometimes to look for poser stuff on google. i get thinks like "...in his armor he is such a poser..." off someone's blog. ill keep searching. found lots of helmets and weapons on rDNA and one samurai armor but it was for p4man. cant figure out why someone wouldnt want to accurately render a suit of conforming armor and not just give it away for free. ;-) the search continues...