kmw opened this issue on May 02, 2005 ยท 29 posts
XENOPHONZ posted Tue, 03 May 2005 at 10:47 PM
I'm not trying to be a wise guy, X. I really am curious.
kmw --
Let me start off by saying that your post was reasonable both in its tone and in its approach to the issue.
That's......jarring.
Most of my opponents on this type of issue tend to scream bloody murder. And hurl personal insults and abuse.
Which tells me where they are coming from in the first place.
shrug
That method never works with me, but they don't know any other way.
However -- you haven't taken that approach.
You are to be commended.
HA! Never met me, have you? Telling a cop to shut the f^#k up wouldn't give me a second's thought. Especially if I thought his words/behavior were unjustified. If I thought the cop was disrespecting me without warrant, yeah, I'd say it. Now if I knew I was wrong, if I KNEW I was out of line and gave him reason -- a RIGHT -- to say it? Well, I'd shut up. Of course, I'd do that if the other guy was a plumber. A badge isn't a free pass with me.*
I don't know how they grow the cops up in NYC, but if you were to address a cop where I live that way -- you'd be in for a bad night. In a bad place. With really bad people for company.
And you'd meet a nice judge bright 'n early the following morning.
A judge that would give you 30 days if you looked at him sideways.
Fun all the way around.
And the more attitude that you displayed: your level of fun would grow proportionately.
Now if I knew I was wrong, if I KNEW I was out of line and gave him reason -- a RIGHT -- to say it? Well, I'd shut up.
In a confrontation with the cops that I know, you wouldn't be the arbiter of whether or not he had a reason.
I grew up in the South Bronx, amigo.
I've been there. It's a great vacation spot. Friendly natives.
They stood in the middle of trash piles by the side of the interstate. Long beards, and wearing old overcoats. Watching the traffic zoom past.
A wonderful spot to take the kids!
I've spent time in the Combat Zone in downtown Boston -- back in the days when the Combat Zone was the Combat Zone.
I've spent time in downtown LA and in Seattle.
Amazing places with amazing people living there. Especially Seattle.
Punks and bums. And weird cultists of every stripe. Weird.
Downtown Vancouver was interestin' for a Southern boy like me, too.
I've lived and worked in many places.
Contract engineering.
*Hmmm. I suppose. But I'm not sure how the analogy applies to Render, its threads and how we're discussing them here.
Are you saying Render's a cop, the, for lack of a better word, complainers are bullies and when Render exerts authority, you get a lot of whining?*
Not exactly.
First off, I wouldn't use the generic term 'complainer' -- Due to the fact that there are perfectly legitimate complaints that people might have at times.
Now, the term 'chronic complainer' or 'whiner' might apply in some cases. But not just the plain vanilla appellation 'complainer'.
No......for 'bully' I'd use the term 'bully'. If you'd like an alternative, then 'jerk' will do.
In public places (such as businesses and forums) these days, it's necessary for the management to keep a lid on things.
Otherwise, the inmates will quickly take over the asylum.
He with the BIGGEST attitude wins. And he that shouts the loudest wins the argument.
That's no way to run a website.
That is, if the site owner wishes to appeal to the widest customer base possible. And not to the Saturday Night Fights crowd alone.
The Saturday Night Fights crowd has a way of driving off a lot of other people. People with money to spend.
There's no percentage for a website owner in allowing the SNF crowd to run their forums for them. Because that's what they'll do, if they are given the opportunity.
A wise business owner sees the need for attracting a lot of customers. Not a need for catering to the "I Want! I Want! I Want!" demands of a few extremely vocal individuals.
Individuals who comprise far less than 1% of the website's overall membership. Sure, they can make a lot of noise -- a WHOLE LOTTA noise -- but, in reality, they don't have anything like the huge following that they want to believe that they do.
The talent to make outraged noises doesn't confer a veto over the realities of the situation.
And the reality is -- and remains (in spite of all of the noise to the contrary):
Renderosity and DAZ are far and away the most successful websites in Poserdom. Bar none.
It's always a high point for the ridiculous to see the administrations that run those ultra-successful websites repeatedly told that they have no idea what they are doing.
Nothing against other websites, mind you.
Each has to tailor things in such a way as to appeal to it's own target demographic.
At Renderosity, they are attempting to appeal to a wider audience than some others.
And thus build a bigger business.
And get richer. Which is what we would all like to do, right?