what you can do, blaineak, is to get two logins. One for you in which you can look at tasteful art nudes (and the rest, but as a grownup you can click these away as it're only pixels) and another login for the kids in which you tick "no nudity". Then it's up to you not to keep logged in so that the kids don't see what you see. Your choice, and your responsability. This thread has once again degenerated because there wasn't enough chips and beer. As for nudes being gratuitous, why not? If we forget that cerebral vanity about "art" and "artist" and simply have fun creating our dreams, wishes, nightmares, collective unconscious, etc, we would all be much happier. Hope you're as happy as I am! Gongyla, female non-artist, partly human, partly Nephilim.