"Poppi makes some sense amidst her popping but no one bothers to listen to her pops or otherwise." and, this, i think is the root of many problems. i truly think that if people tried to make sense, and, to think, logically before posting we might be able to have some sort of "general discussion" forum. it seems to me, folks are so hung up on just getting their opinions up on the board that they forget everything else. it is much easier to flame and call names than it is to try and make some logical sense to someone who may oppose our point of view. if we treated these threads more like actual debates, and, less like "look ma...i've got 87 posts in that thread, 'n am willing to call anyone i think is a lout a d****bg" we might be allowed a bit more fun on this site. doin' it again... Pop...Pop...Poppi!!!