kmw, I hear you about the difference between the naive and the thiefs. About that past incident: I had posted an image to the Poser newsgroup that was intended as a sort of prayer for the well-being of a much respected fellow group participant who had serious worries about her health. A couple of persons posted re-worked versions of the image to the Poser group and alt.binaries.subgenius, one making the angel in the image look like she was holding a cockroach, the other giving her the face of "Connie," the wife of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs in Subgenius lore. These folks meant to have a joke, they didn't claim that the original image was theirs or anything like that. Still, it felt like a violation and it hit me like a blow to the gut. Frankly it wouldn't have hit me so hard if it wasn't that image at that time, and if I'd known that the cockroach thing was a convention at the Subgenius group. I waited to cool down, then posted a response in protest to both groups, and made mention of my retention of copyright on the original image. I received the aforementioned excuse comments, but the snaggers also made it clear that they meant no harm, and didn't know about the lady's health issue. They agreed not to do it again, and so far as I'm aware never have. This isn't quite the same sort of situation that I've seen many people indicate in this forum. I was lucky to be able to end the matter on a positive note, but I can understand the frustration expressed by others when things like this happen. Although I'm not inclined to post copyright reminders to the newsgroup, it's possible that if I had, the incident wouldn't have happened. I dunno...