For a height comparison, Ashleigh will be just a tad taller than SP3, but about 4-5 inches shorter than V3. Also, notice that Ashleigh has more fuller thighs, hip, and butt,- just how I like it:))) Anyways, I am trying to model more "normal proportioned" characters, which I feel a lot of people are looking for, and I feel that such characters are needed in Poser-Land. I've now hot the ankle and part of the foot modeled. Once I finish the foot, I'll concentrate more on the torso, chest, and arms. Hopefully, I might have her base done soon. Then the arduous task of creating edgeloops, UV maps, rigging, and morphs. I gotta big hill to climb. -The Starkdog