Thanks Mizrael, Actually great work has been done with the P4 family. I've seen really fantastic renders with Possette. I didn't want to mess with any of the figures too much for the pic starting this thread. The idea was kind of 'Out of the Box' as in right out of the box. When P6 came out, in a great act of faith, I un-installed both Poser 5 and, at long last, Poser Pro Pack - which I had always kept loaded because of the bugs in P5. I wanted to start with a clean installation of all my Poser goodies. Finding there was no 'easy' hair for the Poser 5 family I went to my archived P5 Runtime DVD to pull out the Neftis hair examples. Really great items those ... What a great hobby, huh? Thanks everyone, Rance