im sorry i wasnt talking about the set up room. The problem im having is in the regular poser room, somone asked me earlier about the bone room,sorry for the confusion there is definatly a problem. The characters that are screwing up are poser characters just with morphs added i' ve had them for a while if you go back to poser tech i put up some more pic and tried it on my girlfriends comp if you want to see what im talking about download my tsao character in free stuff and render it without the pants he comes out fine but if you do it in pro hes messed up