Actually made some progress beating down this attitude in a recent thread at CG talk. Basically all most of these "L33t mod3113r dudez" Know of poser is the plain Dork/posette stuff that often shows up in various places. They are generally completely ignorant as to what the software is about. Then there are people who are just idiots, but that happens in any group so it just doesn't bother me any more. We as serious Poser users need to get over our inferiority complexes and just prove them wrong with the end products... and Pros: PLEASE start using a mildly morphed V2 at least :p