Hi As Shanim again, I bothered you about this before, and sort of gave up on the hair I must admit even though I loved it and really wanted to use it; it took to much time to render. I am exporting the file to cinema 4d but welding whole thing as an .obj file and trying to do animation. Your hair has so much potential it is a pity I cant get it to work without huge render times. It really has to do with the texture files I believe. It renders in poser, but in C4d it is no go, I cant work totally in poser as it is not the most user friendly when it comes to cameras and lights, but I cant understand why your hair should be such a chore for it. I love your stuff and your new hair looks so I am so tempted but if I cant use it, it is just so damned frustrating. I realise you cant help everyone as there are so many programmes and what have you out there I just thought Id try again as every so often I look at your hair and go would it be lovely. By the by what has happened to it I cant find it anywhere on Renderosity?? Yours in admiration, rorsdors