That is really awesome! Can't wait until the finished product. You can find the long and short posable chains at renderotica. A nice set of chains were made by Stormrage called "Twoblades Posable chains", or you could just type "chain" in the search dialog. You also did a tremendous job on the puzzle box that you posted a while back. I did a slight modification to the texture to give it more of a metal and golden look. I would be glad to share it with you if you're interested. Just let me know. Thanks again for working on Pinhead. visualkinetics