Rock on, Mr. B. ;) Say.... Speaking of M3 and why it's better to make a new obj instead of morphing..., think there'll be a chance you can work your magic on M3? His default shape is okay, he just doesn't pose very well. I've heard some talk of using ERC on shoulders to fix the pose problem all poser figures share. Would that work on M3? I must admit I'm envious of how well your new Jesse poses. :D bB