Why (some) modellers are so SILLY? Just accidently stumbled on this post, but, why not ask modellers themself ??? :D I do almost all models in my renders myself lately, and it's really a nice feeling to create something from the scratch...IT IS ART of it's own. It does take time, but I ALWAYS get exactly what I need. I'm not gonna defend those two sillies from thread 1 becouse ppl like that are narrowminded, but I'm gonna have to say this, If I have chance to make exactly what I need, why would I settle for less or something complitely different; it is all about how badly you want to achieve something...:D