No problem. I don't see the point of posting just to patronise that some people seem to have. I've had enough questions answered here to want to help preserve the usefulness of this forum. This whole area really needs exploring. I'm a little concerned about pmd files and multiple runtimes. Sometimes a new pmd file has been genereated for no apparent reason - it might be neccessary to have the main pmd file and character in the main runtime.