Vasquez: No offense taken, and thank you. But have you checked out some of the Wings modeling in the Wings Forum? There are some amazing modelers there, doing Daz/Poser quality organic models with Wings, things that would take months to do in Bryce, if ever (I haven't had much sucess with organic modeling, though. Maybe someday). I model in Bryce a lot, but the model above would have taken a lot longer for me in Bryce. I like the ability to extrude, etc. I used to model in Imagine before I got Bryce, and Wings tools are similar. If I had these abilities in Bryce (maybe in Bryce6 or 7?) I would do ALL my modeling in Bryce. John

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