Modelers should LOVE Poser because it's very easy to animate models compared to the programs they make them with. That's the only reason I use Poser. To animate my own hand made models. If I had to use the traditional rigging nightmares they use. I'd tear my hair out. I think what people get pissed about isn't so much Poser itself. But that people use the existing models and don't make them themselves. I can sort of relate to that. A child can load a figure from the library and push render. If there was no pre-made poser figures. And it was just a blank animation program. Poser might not get such a bad rap. -ScottA