What about including a MAT pose which applies the BUM automatically, but as a jpg? I saw this method in a tut somewhere and it works a treat: In P4 you make a .BUM file by manually applying the texture whateverTex.jpg. Then you rename that .BUM extension to .BMP, open it in an image editor (it'll be a weird greenish relief image) and save it as whateverBump.JPG. Then make a MAT pose (just for P4 users) that'll apply that jpg as the bump map. PP users can apply the regular texture image jpg as their bump. It means P4 users are still supported, The downloads are barely affected (it's a jpg, not a BUM) and they have a one-click application, they don't have to jump through hoops to convert anything. Ob