Aldaron: That's fine, but then how do you get the metaballs to join at the shoulder? What I want is to have the metaballs join at the shoulder, but be right next to the side without joining that. As far as I can tell from your dragons, you didn't really accomplish this either. From which I gather that it is impossible with the current capabilities of Bryce. Which is something that they should implement in Bryce6. Or else better modeling capibilities. Or both, for that matter.