Stacie - my issue is that the fuzzies and huggles culture in the Poser specific realms of the site dumb down imagery and foster a culture where it's not about helping eachother, in general it's about being as inoffensive as possible. While I can respect the fact there is a very real need for a ToS with common guidelines, that ToS also calls for mods or coordinators being mature and even-tempered enough not to go on a thread shutdown rampage in the name of "artists helping eachother" and "community" Artists helping eachother, for instance, would typically result in screaming matches for some, as rendo already has an established culture in place for "nice only, please". I mean - the RIMjob didnt allow for a negative review, the store didnt allow negative reviews for ages, and merchants have had constructive crits on images pulled by hollering troll. Art is supposed to create and generate reactions - good and bad. It's not helping an artist out telling their plainly pedestrian T&A image is the best thing since michaelangelo, you know ? And THAT is what my initial post about - not to bemoan the demise of three forums, but the fact that chaos and conflict are also a part of art. So why not be a tad less triggerhappy ? ~S