shinyary2, I could have done that, but that would have been a lot of unnecessary work.. when doing what I did was rather simple and easy and only took a minute. and I didn't have to edit anything on my scean aside making the sphere moon invisible for the full render. Plus why do the extra work of adding the reflection on the water (as in what some say.. mirror and flip the moon on the water) would have made an unrealistic effect.. cause the light would be broken up by the waves of the water.. so what I got in the sean matches more to how it should be.. and it would again be to much work to duplicate the reflection bryce gave me in photoshop. so why not just let Bryce do it? and CrazyDawg, I know that.. but I ment I don't post any of my work on here. So in that way I 'don't' got a gallery on this site..