Bobasaur, Thank you. ;) XENOPHONZ, We might not agree on most topics, especially political, but for the most part I enjoy reading what you have to say. The html, though, is bothersome. Spinner, If we can't discuss things in an off-topic no-holds-barred forum such as The Coop, we can always show it in our art. Which is more effective: Guernica or a thousand words? A post might get buried or whisked out of sight, but a piece of art stands. Carolly