Hey David great work! I will start right away checking my files. As for the example on the ERC entries, as long as I recall the chest do point to the actual MIC channel name but can't remember of the collar files (my memory is not as good as it used to be). Well had to go to the drawing board, I'm going to start with the NGM package since it is the recent (and fresher in my memory) one. Posermatic