"Lorna, for the info on the Pig thing, see attached link." Okay, thanks, explains all the pork references. ""Am I the only one who also thinks that the quality of the galleries has gone down," Poppi: You are not the only one." That's because many of the older members that had a clue are no longer here, went into permanent lurk mode, were banned, or just took down their galleries out of frustration. No offense to newer members, some are good, but most of this 'visible' forum does seem consist of newer members and probably will as this continues and folks continue to get muffled and ticked off, so how can much quality happen and keep on happening? Just post anything, couple of tits here, a couple of boobs there, one part of what I meant above by other unprofessional areas not going to be getting better and it doesn't matter; at least one time the tits and boobs around here had some quality! Lol!! And that goes for those male renders too, pretty bad when some of those past people made that old dorky male everybody sneers at look lots more sexy than a newby ever could slopping a quick pose with a Millenium Michael 228. The older members used to inspire and help the new ones, now we have newer members inspire and try to help the new members; I see plenty getting ignored or smitten with hamster jokes instead; how does that work and where will it go real fast?