A good point Shonner and one I had not considered. Yet, given the nature of the web, I doubt this would be much of a problem. Unlike the non-virual world, one who feels a particular site is over controlled can set up a rival forum in minutes. At times anarchy does have its advantages :) I also will likely concentrate myself at 3dxtract. They have done much for the Eovia community and it would be nice if users rewarded them with active forums. - Jack