"For the record: the Complaint forum was long gone and replaced by the OT Forum when the closures happened. The OT was getting (in the opinion of mods) too wild. The Tavern, as Stacey said (see post 69), wasn't, but it got closed at the same time just in case it went that way after the OT shut down." Okay, honest mistake.. Suppose either way it was, it won't bring any of those forums back and it sure doesn't look like we'll be dancing in any new open forum anytime soon. Just have to make the best of what is here and hope we don't end up losing even more.