nod That'd be sweet. Maybe we can nail down exactly what I'm doing wrong. My e-mail is servelle(at)gmail.com. As far as body parts being inside the cloth, that has for the most part not been a problem. With some poses durign the calculation frames the hip will poke out of the skirt or something, but it always resolves itself. And at the moment I'm working with sleeveless tops and short skirts in poses with the arms above shoulder height, so I'm not getting any of the intertwining-mesh issues. One problem at a time, eh? As an aside, thank you very much for your help! This particular problem is one that I've had since P5, and it's VERY nice to start getting it worked out.