"so that members can no longer post images of nude children..........and that's incredibly unfair........and we'll sue........." No, this is not the TOS issue that bothers me. It is the "must be suzy creamcheese nicey nicey all the time" that bothers me. "I kinda hate the thought of a client coming here, actually. All the crap in the galleries, all the banners in questionable taste (some of them flashing fast enough to cause a seizure)... Definitely not the most "professional" presentation I can think of, that's for sure. " Yup, this place has gone warmfuzzy cheeseball all the way. I don't even send FRIENDS here, anymore. God forbid anyone I respect should check out the Poser hot 20. also, an aside on mod-stroking. at the end of the day, no matter how hard you try to curry favor...break the forum rules and you're outta here. that is, if folks complain about you. i am sick of forum threads falling into silliness about hamsters and piggies because others deliberately choose to derail discussions. that's not fair to those of us who are interested in the actual topic. and, stating negative feelings about something is not "whining". at least, not the way i was raised. Pop...Pop...Poppi!!!:*)