Oilscum...point well taken. As you say, "trolls troll." I was trying to be more tactful then calling a troll a troll. As far as what I said being hateful...no, it wasn't, just disrespectful, as in I don't respect folks who dis people who are working hard trying to improve the medium like Anton has. Yner...have yourself a nice day...and play nice at Renderosity. Whoever you really are.