we discussed once having members load directly to the challenge page but then that would cut out any discussion whatsoever plus "out-ofsight, out-of-mind", doubt anyone would look then glad to see you back 'chelle & errr donald over there (got him tied down atm) & misha & & &... but we're missing some of the techies... you know that was my concern when i signed up for this, the technical aspect, not all fun & games... at least i can go back i drag the archives for an answer