ScottA, I read your explanation of the problem in the Poser forum, and I'm glad you've at least figured out what causes the glitch, BUT, what enquiring minds really want to know is, is there any way to retrofit the dozens of freestuff files we've downloaded that were modeled incorrectly so that they work? (Maybe with a clever python utility?) Or, even better, is there a way to write a patch for ProPack that allows it to temporarily read "old-style" files, so that I don't have to uninstall it just to use a model that won't work in Poser anymore? This is a REALLY important issue... virtually none of the models I have were set up in the careful way you describe, and therefore are junk to me in ProPack. That represents a loss of hundereds of man-hours of work by all involved. --