So far Im ok too {knocks on woodlike substance called a desk}. Hope you get it all worked out Spinner and that it wont take forever ~sigh~ sometimes it does :( I absolutely refuse to use MSIE unless I absolutely 'have' to..I use mainly Firefox now {1.0.4} saves my butt sometimes Im sure. I didnt know PC-Cillin would'nt run w/o sp4..thats some extra info ;) Heh, after Spinner started calling me Jumpy, it kinda stuck I guess..and yeah, it might have been that evil overlord of the Tavern, KBennett who started it..I cant remember ~lol~

~Jani

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