"I've actually used FaceGen before - and it does seem better than the the poser face room. Wonder why that is?" I've looked at the demo and chatted with someone who owns and is very happy with facegen. She said she thought it is so good at getting incredible likenesses of people from the same front and profile setup is in the facegen head mesh itself, which is very low res compared to the P5's and even more so than the daz figures. Simpler is better apparently. But I've never seen how their meshes handle expressions, etc.