But from the "outside" seeing 8 versions released in only 2 years does seem excessive. Compared to what, plodding along at daz pace with Bryce? ...hmm? If you're "not on their registered user customer list" then how did you "tried following thier own forums a while"? Their own forums are restricted to registered e-on software users only according to their forum login page. Since youre not slamming them at all and yet you claim there mainly seems to be issues complaints or questions that were never answered. at the forum that you cant even access lets take a look at a few results from searches of various forums. I took the first quotes I found that specifically referred to both products: (From Vue forum here at Rosity): Vue4 IMHO....is much better than Bryce. I'd go with Vue4...very stable & lots of goodies around for it. I used it for a couple years & never had a skip/miss. You can't beat that price :) Well, there have been various discussions about this, but at this point, since the advent of Vue Infinite, there is no comparison... Even vue 5, there's no comparison... Vue is a better product... The problem is that Bryce has stood still for various years while Vue evolved. Had both..... Bryce is outdated and DAZ just mnade one big mess of Bryce 5.5 as far as I'm concerned. I'm getting rid of it after one day already. Get Vue 5, it's much much better and far more advanced then Bryce 5.5 It's well worth the extra investment. Just for laughs, you might want to take a little look-see over at the Bryce forum. Looks like all is not peaceful in paradise these days. Do you get Value for your money? Yes. This program (Vue) actually works and works well. You'll never look back. The grass is greener on the other side. Walk into the light ! I agree to go with Vue 4. I have bryce 5 and all its doing is collecting dust. For me Vue is way ahead of Bryce. Sometimes cost is not everything. It depends on what you going to use the applicaation for. go with vue, atleast it gives you a future roadmap when you do get more money, and e.on always has nice upgrade prices. nothing wrong with bryce but its not better then vue and the development phase is alot slower as weve all noticed and since it isnt cheaper i realy dont see the point in picking up bryce before vue, an slightly inferior product for the same price with a much worse upgrade path..... (from daz forum team at daz Bryce forum): The things that Vue does weren't implemented in a short six month period. They've had four years to add these features during the same time Bryce was sitting on the shelf and they've taken good advantage of that lead. Catching up in six months on that much of a lead - that's impossible and expecting it is being extremely unrealistic. We have to be realistic about what to expect given the time DAZ has had Bryce and whether 5.5 should have been a patch or not is a moot point and not worth arguing over. (from CGTalk): All in all, I love this package! (Vue) It has given me the ease of use that I thought 3DS would but didn't. There are SO many helpful people out there. I find all the Vue communities to be a bit nicer than the 3DS or Bryce communities (yes, I was a Brycer from the very begining [KPT Bryce]). Bryce vs vue, yes they are focusing on the same market segment, but bryce has not kept up with vue for years, and neither features, rendertime or quality in bryce is up to par Had Vue for, hm 2 months, jsut got Infinite, so learnign with it Used Bryce for years, but...sigh hugs poor bryce Yikes. Didnt intend post to be this long, and it could be much longer. Sorry. Ill clip it here ;) Do your own forum search and youll find similar results. Its hard to find a post from a user with Bryce and any version of Vue that voices preference for Bryce besides the daz folks themselves. But, I cant really blame them for trying to sell their product ;)