I have Virtual Photographer but, as u said Rich, I wanna learn to do it "manually" so to speak! I picked this pic as a pic to work with Rich, doesn't matter really if it doesn't work well with this one! I just wanted to get that B&W conversion right! And, apparently, it did work so I'm happy! As for the image, I actually kept it in B&W but I toned it too and intend to use it for the scavenger hunt! ;) Thx a bunch for ur help guys! :)