...Gareee...pious remarks like "I'm not slamming them at all" followed immediately by cracks like "I tried following thier own forums a while, but there mainly seems to be issues complaints or questions that were never answered." is double-talk. It's aslo silly. The average reader can see that. The average reader can also see that Bryce is a very distant also-ran to any version of Vue regardless what the daz spinmeisters would like us to believe.