Thanks for sending me that file Phil. I found out what I was doing wrong right away thanks to having that file for a refrence. I didn't have the ball listed in the "addchild" section of the cr2. I added it. And it worked fine. Can't Blame the Propack for this one folks. Just my stupidity ;-) By the way. Here's something that happened that was weird. When I added your working cr2 file to the same library where my not working test file was. MY TEST FILE WORKED!!!!!!!!! Somehow. It used the info from your cr2 to make mine work. Figure that one out! Pretty strange huh? I love this stuff. Thanks for the help Phil. ScottA