And Eovia has a new vertex modeler called Hexagon, it's download only right now and I'm pretty happy with it. I've been using Carrara for years and am really happy with it. There's a plug in for it (It's extra and if you buy the Carrara Pro version you'll get a discount on it when you order) called ArchiTools that enables you to construct a house, interior or exterior, create holes for windows and doors and place the preset doors/windows or you can create custom doors/windows. Pretty darn cool. The Carrara Plug-In, Transposer 2, doesn't quite work and play well with Poser 6, there's a supposed bug fix in the works, but no idea when it may be out. Probably when the Poser 6 SR 1 gets released... Carrara can export OBJ files, and I've had pretty good luck using them in Poser 6 (and earlier versions). As good as firefly is, Carrara's renderer is the easiest to set up and use, not to metion pretty darn fast, even on my 733MHZ Mac.