odeathoflife is probably right! Every time I try to delete the eyes, head and/or neck bones this happens. THe same thing happens if you try to remove the seperate toes from the P5 and P6 figures, which makes for a lot of fustration in trying to create shoes, if you like to do them with both shoes in a single object. If you don't mind individual shoes you can use the supplied shoe object to supply the bones. Which brings up the point, try to find some peice of clothing that alreay has the extra bones removed as your source, assuming you can't, or don't want to bother, get it back into postion as ODL says. mike