:deep sigh: It crashed last night... out to the desktop and my suitcase, too... but I don't know if it was the memory bug, or I just threw too much at it. I'm trying to make it crash again, but instead it is just rendering strangely. With 1 gig of RAM, how many Jameses should a person be able to render? Is 9 unreasonable? I really need to get some sleep, but I'm too curious to let it go. Carolly