Hi Jumpy, There's not a way right now to get total members since it takes so long for the member statistics page to resolve all the queries . However, we just queried the database and there are 174262 active members. Hope this helps a little:) The second question I am not sure about either and so I asked one of the programmers and he wasn't clear on your question about the clones and bandwith issue. Sorry Thanks Stacey