On the hanging up at "Loading Textures", are you using any bump maps by any chance? I found bump maps generally gave me nothing but grief so I rarely use them. If I do, I often have the same prob you are mentioning here. Some time you can tweak the settings if you really want to use them, but mostly I just save myself the grief. Now, does anyone know why or a way how to cause the heirarchy editor and animation pallet editor to open with the hiearchy trees closed instead of expanded. Talk about a major pain in the butt! P6 is sluggish and unresponsive enough just trying to give the dials a slight nudge without it jumping by huge values. But scrolling down through a list of five to ten figures (clothing counts) can be a very time consuming (and did I mention annoying?). You know, there are times in this Sado-maschistic relationship, I have to ask myself, "Do the folks at CL (or whoever they are this week) actually use Poser?"