Ditto hilljf's comments. Thank you Cath for your tools & continuing to graciously share your vast & hard earned experience & true love of Poser. Thank you face_off for your wonderful shader scripts & insights, that add to the realism palette for us. You both are truly talented individuals. I look forward to supporting all positive efforts to give us a deeper understanding into the tools we are blessed with. Even 5 years ago it was impossible for most of us to do the things we do today & the things we will blow each others minds with in days to come! Love, Peace, & Pose!!! :-)