Well, I'm not a license zealot. Simply a "zealot" for truth - and the truth is that by the industry accepted definition of "open source" - BSD is open source, like it or not. Pengy might not think it is "open source" by his definition. However, the standard definition is that one is ALLOWED to redistribute the source and any derivatives not that one MUST do so. This is something I think is GOOD for the Poser community. Think of how much easier things would be if one didn't need to RTE encode figures such as the Aeon line of Dodgers, or the A3Man of Posermatic's. BSD-type licensing allows these product to be distributed without the RTE hassle and yet retain rights in not redistributing the figures without permission. EK