,,,@ Nikki ---ahhhh - I see ( #10 ) -- so it was dBgrafix who actually said flower pics were easy to take ....and so they are ! - close -convenient- and easy to aim at --- but he didn't say 'good' flower pics were easy to take! ....@ Tedz ----- a plumber I shall be ! -- ( and always will be - though I have no formal training - or ANY training at all -- in fact my toilet runs on and I haven't a clue why --- but nevermind ) ------little blue pills!! HA! never! --- still in fine working order -thank you ..( too much information ? )